August 27. 2008 22:49

I absolutely think this is the same rug. This carpet had some sort of devastating accident. water for sure, especially with the color run present. The only thing that's going against this is the inside purple color and the border color are the same on the faded rug, but they're different shades on the rich colored rug.

The rug is the same size, and same design. This type of kashan is common to have this type of thing happen to the colors even from oxidation

Other than design, take a look at the right hand side of each rug, both bow inward on the right hand side.

Take a look at the very, very top right corner of the fringe's kilim. both show similar "scrunching"

Also, the middle of the rug features a similar darker area running through both carpets.

Same Rug

RugPro

August 28. 2008 03:02

To me both rugs look identical and the same. The change in the colors might have been because of an attempt to make it look older by chemically washing and treating it, or by exposing the rug to the direct sun light. It would been easier to judge if one could see the rug in person to examine it. For example if a rug is exposed to direct sunlight to look older, the surface of the pile looks faded but if you look through the pile in depth, you see the darker color part of the inner pile. This to some extent maybe the case if the rug is chemically treated. In anyway, and from the pictures, the rugs are the same. Khosrow Sobhe, Los Angeles. info@rugidea.com

Khosrow Sobhe

August 31. 2008 14:02

Thanks Dr. Sobhe,

It had been mentioned on the Rug Rag forum some notable points were the right side shape of each rug is similar, as are the lower right hand corners, and lower left hand corners. Unfortunately, Sotheby's did not post and Provenance on the 2008 rug.

We very much enjoy your blog Dr. Sobhe, thanks for the comment!

Dave